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March 06, 2009

Comments

Mimi

I am in the process of building my greenhouse and currently making do with a hoop house at this point. I was planning on doing the black barrel method of adding some heat for the couple of cold months that we have but I love the idea of using horse manure also! In researching this I see comments about the fresh manure adding too much ammonia to the air and killing the plants...have you had a problem with that?

Trisha

this gives new meaning to bottom heat. Awesome idea! would love to know how that worked out.

Tim Henderson

What a cool idea. I'd be interested in the results of your experiment. How large is your green house? I'm looking to do something similar in my small greenhouses this fall in Texas.

Pat

It's also OK to just wrap the barrels in black plastic or landscape fabric; this helps draw the warmth without having to paint them. From the looks of your setup, you could probably wrap the whole bed, which might even speed up the composting.

Pat Parks

Hi - Just starting a compost heap in my small passive solar greenhouse - I read that compost inside a greenhouse might release too much nitrogen, which could kill plants. Have you experienced any problems with nutrient imbalances since installing the heaps?

Love Apple Farm

Yep, Jeffrey, you're right. I just couldn't find any black barrels, and when I needed to install the barrels, I couldn't spare the time to spray paint them black. Such is the life of a farmer. We make do.

Jeffrey Bittinger

Just thought id let you know your barrels should be black instead of white. During the day when the sun is out the black absorbs the heat and then releases it throughout the night.

Eric

In days of old I built my compost heating piles using oak pallet for the sides. This gave all the aeration needed. This was in the Fairbanks area. So it was plenty cold.

Elspeth English

I'm just looking in to manure as a source of domestic heating and was reading a guide to composting horse manure that talks about aerating the pile with PVC pipe with holes drilled in. Heat in my 2 horse pile has been measured at 45 degrees C. I just have to experiment with how to get it out and how much I can take before decompostion slows down.

Ken Carman

I wrote an article on heating your greenhouse with compost where the "bins" are on rails (train car type) so that you are constantlt feeding in a new "car" of material from one end while taking out a "car" full of finished material from the other end.
My other idea is to keep the north wall heavily insulated and have a large insulated cover that is reflective underneath such that during the day when it is up, it reflects additional light down into house (in winter when needed), and then lowers at night to provide a blanket.

Jodi Avery

In the book, "Solviva," Anna Edey describes how she heated her greenhouse on Martha's Vineyard with manure from her chickens and rabbits.The book is inspirational,as is she.

Katie E.

Have you checked out a product called O2compost? (No I'm not an employee - my mother purchased a small 3-bin system!) As their materials say, "O2Compost utilizes a method of composting referred to as Aerated Static Pile Composting. Using an electric blower, we induce airflow through the pile to maintain aerobic conditions at all times." The system produces EXCELLENT compost and cuts down on odors, although you get LOTS of heat.

Nate

Neat idea, but I thought hot composting also requires oxygen for the thermophilic bacteria to really be active. By compressing the pile instead of fluffing it up, you cut off oxygen and end up with a cold pile.

Maybe you can confirm this with a Master Composter.

Karen

I haven't tried this, but I wonder if your water barrels would absorb and radiate much more heat if you painted them black?

Rebecca T. of HonestMeat

Cynthia- good work! I actually got a SARE research grant about 8 years back to look at heating hoophouses with big steaming piles of compost. Not only did the compost windrows provide heat, but they also upped the CO2 levels in the houses, which also boosts production. The key, as you probably know, is to keep the temperature up in the compost, which requires continuous additions of nitrogen sources and moisture. Perhaps you and your interns can just pee on the piles everyday, he, he...

nate

I'd like to point out that in addition to heating the greenhouse, the aerobic decomposition of the manure creates a CO2-rich environment, which should be beneficial for your little sprouts.

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